Oh no no no, dont think i was disagreeing with you, i was agreeing with you but stating limitations
Yeh i am all for the removal of the proxies, i doubt it will ever happen though.
Call me twisted but i am also of the persuasion that NTL should introduce hard caps to the higher tiers instead of messing about with traffic shaping.
( but i guess that would be a whole new thread, and i would get shot down in flames for suggesting it
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