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Originally Posted by anduin
Your blinkers to the real world really are annoying...
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My 'blinkers', what because I exposed your non-sensical reasoning?
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The reason people pay for newsgroup access is for the binaries, else they would use the free newsserver that ntl provide. Time for you to come out with other rubbish reasons like "ntl's retention isnt as good" etc etc.
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Of course it is. And yes, retention is an issue. I pay for giganews cause it's 90 days. Some pay for only 45 days, some even 20 days. What has this got to do with anything? If NTL supplied me with decent retention for binaries I'd use them for sure. And I prefer to use google groups for text.
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and as for the ludicrous 'i have no proof that it hurts the network', you really need to rethink that...
Go look at contention, the cost of bandwidth, maximum throughputs of all the equipment on ntl;s network.
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That's not proof, rather supposition. An NTL employee has just stated that his area was slow because of oversubscription. I get great speeds from giganews 24/7 but not other sites. It obviously has multiple causes, however I'm not privy to that information. And if NTL's contention ratios are too high, it's their own damn fault for oversubcription and advertising a service they cannot provide. Not for users exercising lawful use of their internet service.
Anyway, I'm out of this thread. You simply have gone from saying it's illegal. I proved you wrong. Then you cited about.com. Wrong jurisdiction and wtf about.com? Then you cited a statute that pertained to public viewing. Then you argued it's so obviouslly a legal 'FACT' that downloading is illegal, requiring no proof and confusing morality and the law. Now you're talking about usenet retention.