[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Tell me Xaccers, do you get a worse hanging depending on the number of victims or is it the case that "our" murders are less reprehensible than his murders?

As has been evidenced and remarked upon in this thread your defence when cornered is to twist words, create strawmen and play to the gallery. I've no wish to engage you in this type of behaviour.

It strikes me, and I'm sure others, as somewhat bizarre the sanctity and reverence with which you hold the innocent victims of Hussein yet, at the same time, the innocent lives lost for "freedom and democracy" in Iraq hardly merit a mention on your part. Why are you not seeking justice for them? Oh, that's right, it's a war, something you've no actual experience of, but better still it's "our" war - against oppression and genocide (irony or what?).

Two wrongs do not make a right and remember, those soldiers on trial for murder and rape were out there murdering and raping in your name.

Margaret Beckett has no idea what she is talking about - many of her parliamentary colleagues have already expressed their concerns publically over her inexperience and her appointment to the post. The Labour party opposes the death penalty and condemns other "less civilized" countries for employing same when it suits them. In this case it doesn't so they backslap and congratulate one another on the deposing and subsequent pending execution of Hussein.

It will be interesting to see if the gassed Kurds, dead Kuwaitis, murdered Shia and Barzani tribesmen get their "Iraqi justice" but some how I suspect Hussein will have long shuffled of this mortal coil in a flurry of democratic Iraqi justice expediency before they see their day in court.

I've stated previously that I have no real wish to argue with you any further on this matter and I suggest, with all due respect, that we leave the facts as they are.

What has any of that got to do with demoralising our troops which is the comment you made?
You metioned order 17 yourself, so you are well aware that they are immune to Iraqi prosecution, however as you know, that does not mean they are totally immune to prosecution, as demonstrated by the cases involving several soldiers accused of abusing and murdering Iraqis, and most notibly the abuse that took place in Abu Ghraib.

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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

Well Murder is murder, and war crimes are war crimes.

Or are YOU saying murder by a British or American soldier doesnt count and should not be classed i the same league of murder as Saddam hussein?

Margret Beckett is quoted as saying:

It is right that those accused of such crimes against the Iraqi people should face Iraqi justice

As I said, I don't know of any of our forces who've been accused of those such crimes.
If you know different, then please do tell, exactly what was the rank of the forces involved in invading Kuwait for instance?
As MrAngry has mentioned, order 17 grants immunity for coalition forces etc from Iraqi prosecution, to protect them from trumped up charges, however that does not mean they are immune from coalition prosecution.