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Old 07-11-2006, 18:15   #43
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Re: Traffic Shaping (again)

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Originally Posted by RXP View Post
But the future is IPTV, big heavy bandwidth uses. The ISP's who don't upgrade their networks will loose out to the ones that can offer high bandwidth services. Also shaping will become a problem, especially since NTL themselves are using bittorent.

Also no amount of shaping in the world will control NNTP now, since providers are introducing SSL.
Traffic shaping is designed to help exactly the applications you describe - by shaping/restricting (relatively) non-time critical applications like NNTP and Bittorrent tehy can give priority to time critical applications like VOIP and IPTV.

Bandwidth is expensive and has the problem that you can't account for the extremes. Any ISP will only provide enough bandwidth to cope for their average busy hour (as it were). Even with higher average bandwidths I wouldn't want to try watching a major football match over IPTV - what happens when everyone is trying to use the same high bandwidth app? Compare it to mobile phone networks - they work fine 99% (actually 99.999% if engineered properly) of the time, but when it comes to New Year just how many calls can you actually get through that network?

There are ways around it and to make the network more effective but as a business they will (probably) do a cost/benefit analysis to work out the best solution. At the end of the day as someone has already said if they can make 10 customers happier by throttling one that's what they're going to do.

Oh, and if everyone starts shovelling high bandwidth traffic through SSL in an attempt to dodge traffic shaping you'll just force the ISPs to shape SSL too.
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