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Originally Posted by punky
If I don't want to kill you, but want to do something to you that would, and I do it, is it not still murder?
Some/most (all?) marchers didn't want to keep him in power, but the result of the march, if it was successful was that it would have kept him in power. They still decided to march.
See?
It doesn't matter why they marched, the result of the march, if successful, would have kept him in power. People still decided to protest.
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Thanks for not answering my question, which was how can your two statements, one after the other, support each other?
"1. I never said the reason people marched was to keep him in power,
2. I said they marched to keep him in power."
You stated they marched to keep him in power - no, they didn't - they marched to protest against, in their eyes, an illegal war. It was never going to change the mind of the government(s) involved, so your theorising is akin to the number of angels on the eye of a needle.
And in answer to your first (hopefully) rhetorical question (I think I know what you meant) - No, it would probably be manslaughter (it took me a bit of working out what you meant "If you didn't want to do something, but wanted to do something that would do that something, and you did that something, wouldn't it still be murder"
But to take it at face value -
Surely wanting to do something to someone that would kill them, is the same as wanting to kill them?
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
So you know all about the Blackpool plans then? 
By not taking action to help keep a nation from expanding into other territories, you are supporting that nation's actions, whether you like it or not.
If you walk on by while one kid beats up another kid in the street, you're supporting that kid in his attack. |
No, but I knew all about the Land War in Europe plans, and from the inside
mmmm... Xaccers, shouldn't you be over in Iraq now, stopping the torture and killings? Or are you supporting them by not doing anything (see, I can use fallacious extreme examples as well
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