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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
As indeed is advocating same by the use of force without international warranty or treaty. Bush Snr called for the Iraqi's to rise up and depose Saddam. The United States called for the uprising then promptly ran away when it realized it had, in effect, condoned genocide by doing so. You'd have known this if you'd bothered to read the link I gave earlier.
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Are you sure you actually read it? Nothing in that link relates to the US endorsing or calling for genocide.
The closest it comes to mentioning genocide is with the retalitory attacks by Saddam's forces.
Perhaps you could quote the passage which states that the US condoned genocide?
So, in this case, the US stood by international law and didn't assist the shia in their uprising, which as that article (the one you did read right?) clearly states "at least in part" ie not soley down to the US, and they get chastised by you for that, yet when they do support regime change you chastise them still!
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
You forgot "In my opinion". Oh, and who is it that's getting as much money as possible from Saddam at the moment?
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Oh yes, sorry, it's my opinion, just happens to be backed up by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, and France and Russia claiming to have been owed approx $8billion each, and Germany $2billion.
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
Pesky old international law, eh.
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When it gets in the way of saving lives, pesky is one heck of an understatement!
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
That is the most ridiculous attempt at logic ever. So, according to you, if I believe Saddam was justified then, even though he murdered the Shia marsh arabs, it was their fault? Alternatively, if I don't believe that Saddam was justified then the responsibility for the murder of the marsh arabs lies with him? What if good old Saddam believes he was justified in all of his actions? Are you saying that because he believes he was right then the responsibility for the deaths of his victims is their own fault? Get a grip.
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If someone rob's a bank and gets locked up for it, is it the bankrobber's fault that they have lost their freedom or the judicial system's fault?
Do you honestly believe that Saddam didn't think he was justified in his actions against the Shia? If so, why did he do it then? If he thought he was justified, are you saying he wouldn't have thought the shia brought it on themselves by revolting in the first place?
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
For the love of God man, get some english lessons.
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Given that you've misread genocide into the article you linked to (assuming you actually attempted to read it), I'll be sending you a prospectus for the local adult learning center in your area asap.
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If I read that rightly, no matter what anyone says, their "secret" reason for marching against the war was to keep Saddam in power? Wow!!!! |
Put it down to naivete
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So if anyone marches against the Labour party, they must secretly be Tory supporters? That's logic chain is going to hack a lot of people off!  |
Bad analogy, now if someone marched against a general election taking place, then that would be to keep Labour in power, whether they realise it or not, that would be the outcome.
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And all those protesters against the new Polaris base in Scotland, just want Communist USSR to invade us - no, hold on, that can't be right?  |
Did they realise that without a nuclear deterrant, there would be an increased likelyhood of invasion, or more likely, WW3.
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Originally Posted by foreverwar
Just because you are against one thing, does not mean you are for another
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Indeed, but that does not mean you realise the outcome of your protests being successful.
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I am against Capital Punishment, but I am not for paedophiliac murderers, rapists, and crimes against the state.
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You are however for them being locked up correct?
Are you aware that with prison comes the risk of release and reoffence?