Pharrel, while I am heartened by your enthusiasm & faith in your new employer there are a quite a few on this forum who work or have previously worked for Ntl (myself included, in an engineering capacity, I left of my own accord, not through redundancy) who might not share your enthusiasm based on a legacy of missed opportunities, broken promises, mis-management, bad decisions, constant reorganisations and lack of investment. Don't get me wrong, there is a wealth of talent in Ntl but often it's not backed up by the finances or the management. I sincerely hope Ntl DO get it right this time for their customers and employees (sorry, associates) sake. But I, for one, am a bit sceptical. I've seen it all before, again & again ................