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Originally Posted by ofirgal
You are twisting my words - I said the problem is "NTL don't have the know how or the will"
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I don't think I've twisted anything, your words seem quite plain - "NTL don't have the know how".
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Originally Posted by ofirgal
The same sites work just fine with most other ISPs so your example is completely irrelevant. MS security issues are the same regardless of ISP. The proxy issues only happen on NTL.
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If only 'most' other ISP's work fine then how can it be an NTL issue only ? Some sites (esp those that use ip checking to block visitors) are poorly written and so don't work with proxy servers (not just ntl's) - that's a fact. We can manage to extract the real ip when an ntl customer browses this site, so when we ban an ip address we don't ban an entire section of the country. It's not hard, and certainly not ntl's fault.
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Originally Posted by ofirgal
I am very well informed and you can use google to verify this. All my accusations are documented and have been refered to ofcom. Like it or not, it's all fact.
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If you think NTL are the only ISP that uses proxy servers and has problems with them then you are not quite so well informed - ask the poor AOL users what they think of AOL's proxy servers - be prepared for a serious rant from them
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Originally Posted by ofirgal
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That's very nice, but what's your point ? - I haven't disputed the fact that they can cause problems, They sometimes do, we already know that - I am disputing your statements that
all problems are ntl's fault (they are not) and that ntl are the only ISP to use proxy servers and have problems with them (they are not). As I said, I'll be more than happy when they burn them all in proxy server hell.
