Thread: Whats betters Pace or Samsung, and how do i get a samsung one?
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Old 09-10-2006, 16:40   #25
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Re: Whats betters Pace or Samsung, and how do i get a samsung one?
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Originally Posted by spiderplant View Post
TBH, I can't see many ntl customers going for a dead PC board sat on top of their TV. Try throwing in two tuners, QAM demod, descrambler, smartcard reader, video decoder, PAL encoder, SCART switch, UHF modulator, case, power supply, front panel, remote control, cable modem and a few licence fees - then see how far $99 gets you.


Add a zero and you'd be close.
are you being serious spiderplant?,its hard to tell, "dead PC board", what does that mean?.

its a developers embeded board (with a bios that can take any x86pci card as standard)and your never going to see ANY other developers board of that spec at anywere near that price, its not meant to be taken as the final thing, and i thought it would be clear to anyone remotely tech that ofcourse those standard (generic off the shelf, ie cheap)parts would need to be included or it wouldnt make a very good DVB box now would it.

its also werth mentioning that the current £150 charge NTL:tw make against an unreturned stb also makes a profit for ntl, as in, the stb does not cost ntl £150 but less.

i guess its an easy way to try and dismiss the idea though, i take it your happy with the current stb with all its limitations then and indeed think it can support much of ntl's offering for the next 5 years?.

and thats after you (i assume you do) know that just about every other product comeing to the DVB table or real soon now, is already far better speced.

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http://informitv.com/articles/2004/0...elewestandntl/
"10 May 2004

At the end of April, Liberate Technologies filed under Chapter 11 of the US Bankruptcy Code. The company says it hopes to emerge from bankruptcy within four to six months."

http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=122527
"News Release

Monday 10 May 2004, 22:13 GMT
Monday 10 May 2004BUSINESSTECHNOLOGYLiberate TechnologiesLiberate Announces Subscription License Agreement with ntl - UK's Largest Cable Operator

SAN MATEO, California, May 10 /PRNewswire/ --
- ntl Signs Long-term License with Guaranteed 1.3 Million Deployments "

http://www.liberate.com/
liberate couldnt stay listed so went downsized and private
"Effective December 20, 2005, Liberate is no longer a reporting company under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and accordingly, will no longer be filing reports, including annual, quarterly or current reports under the Exchange Act. Liberate previously effected a 250,000-for-1 reverse stock split of its common stock, which was adopted by its board and subsequently approved by its stockholders, as part of a "going-private" transaction. Further information about the reverse stock split and the related deregistration of Liberate's common stock can be found in Liberate's various prior SEC filings at www.sec.gov. Current investors may also contact Liberate at (650)330-8960. We thank you for your continued support. "


regarding liberate and its very limited capabilitys

[edit] i removed the direct link as i dont think its wise having everyone trying the (as i said) crumby Emmy liberate emulater :8)
Unsupported elements will generally be disabled by the Liberate transcoding server. Use of these technologies may cause strange behaviour or errors.
Do not use the following, as these are not supported; HTTP 1.1, JavaScript 1.2 , HTML 4, Plug-ins, Java, Applets, VBScript, XML, DOM 1, Cascading Style Sheets, and Active X controls.
Of the supported standards, there are the following exceptions and/or bugs:
HTML 3.2
  • Don’t use sound
  • Don’t use Image maps
  • Don’t use mailto links
  • Don’t use null values in drop-down menu options or use drop-down menu’s with a large number of menu options
  • Don’t use graphics as form ‘submit’ buttons unless using workaround
  • Remove External and Broken links
JavaScript 1.1
  • Don’t use "document.write" (use dynamic tables instead)
  • Don’t use Alert boxes
  • Use Liberate compliant cookie code
HTTP
  • Ensure only HTTP 1.0 compliant data is presented to ntl’s servers
  • Avoid complex server-side redirects
  • Don’t use HTTP Get for very long URL’s (e.g. over 1kb), use HTTP Post instead
For working alternatives to unsupported features and code extensions, please see Liberate’s Content Developers Guide (Content Development Kit) and Liberate’s guide to Supported JavaScript. They can be found in the "downloads" section.
N.B. If you are thinking about using NetRequest, please contact your contact delivery manager for more information, as it may not be supported. Last updated: 18 October 2002

the so called wonderful backroom liberate kit equates to
http://informitv.com/glossary/liberate/
"The Liberate software platform consists of server software to transcode XML or HTML content and a Mediacast server to carousel broadcast data. Client browser software in the set-top box renders applications to the screen and manages user interaction."

ohh how sweet a far better, far more powerful fully tcp:ip/UDP equiped rebol core and rebol view would be in conparison to liberate ,and way back in 2000.
http://www.rebol.com/
http://www.rebol.com/ios-intro.html

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they cant even get that right, they dont use multicasting in a custom comercial deployment...
http://informitv.com/articles/2006/0...ringaroundthe/
"
27 September 2006
Peering around the corner of digital media distribution

Peer-to-peer delivery was a major theme at a London conference on digital distribution for film and television. While technology can provide low-cost global distribution, issues of rights, licensing and regulation remain as complex as ever.

Kevin Baughan, head of technology strategy at UK cable operator NTL:Telewest described an experiment to accelerate downloads using a peer-to-peer delivery system augmented with a server from CacheLogic."

http://informitv.com/articles/2006/0...alsbittorrent/
12 February 2006
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"NTL trials BitTorrent video downloads using CacheLogic

Cable television company NTL, the leading consumer broadband provider in the UK, is to trial a legal peer-to-peer video download service in association with BitTorrent and Cachelogic.

The small scale technical trial is expected to begin in April and will feature a large variety of licensed video material, including popular movies, music videos and television programmes.
BitTorrent peer-to-peer, or P2P, client software will be combined with content caches from CacheLogic to accelerate the delivery of downloads and offset network costs. The companies say that using the high-speed NTL network this will provide “ground-breaking download speeds of broadcast quality content”."
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