[punky]

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

So temperatures in England are on average 1 degree higher than in 1950's, snow is rapidly dissapearing from Kilimanjaro's peak, glaciers are receiding at their greatest ever rate and hurricanes are now more frequent over the atlantic than at any other time in recorded history.

But punky has a graph that says over "millions" of years (not the last 100) the Earth does this anyway so were all Ok.

You dont drive a 4x4 do you - or perhaps a BMW?

And even if I did, it would still probably be more efficient and healthier for the environment than the guy down the road with the POS 15 year old Fiesta.

However, unless they had SUVs preceding/succeeding the last 4 ice ages* in the earth's 4.5 billion year history, then I think the periods of warming and cooling have more to with nature and not SUVs.

And no, I am not part of an oil cartels either.

*There has been 4 major ice ages in the past, however, there has been hundreds of minor ones occuring at frequencies of 40,000 to 100,000 years.

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Originally Posted by trebor

Global warming is real. the questions are, why is it happening and is there anything we can do about it and even should we do anything about it.

I never said it wasn't... However, its a scientific fact, that temperature has gone from both hot and cold extremes in the past long before humans, apes, or even mammalian-like creatures ever set foot on the earth.

If we didn't burn fossil fuels nor use planes or SUVs, then the earth's temperature will still rise and fall as it has done consistently in the past.