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Old 04-09-2006, 23:33   #40
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Re: Courtesy call from NTL - £10 fine if your late paying your bill !

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Originally Posted by xathras View Post
ntl will state in there contract that any miss payment can lead to disconnection and the possibility of admistering an administration charge. Don't ask me where in the contract, I know exactly were it states this is the company i work for contract
indeed im sure you know exactly were the passage is in your companys consumer T&C/contract, is it some secret were this online document is xathras ?, if not point the readers here to it please.

you are also aware, im sure, that just because a consumer contract/T&C states a clause in said contract in favour of the company , does not make it binding if it can be shown, or there exists already, case law, that states it is an unfair clause and hence non binding or enforcable.

that anyone can go to the their local court house or even online today, and file a case against said company (and even individuals within that company) apparently for the grand total of £0 for people on state benefits and/or low income, the cost on average for working people apparently being around £120/£150 that can by all acounts be reclaimed in restitution after winning the case.

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Originally Posted by lostandconfused View Post
a lot of people have mentioned the illegality of charging £10. as ive mentioned before if you pay on time you can easily avoid it.

however if you feel so strongly about it, why not put your money where your mouth is so to speak, take ntl to court and make a precident, if your that confident you'll win im sure a lot of people will thank you.
illegality ,that would be unlawful ,illegal relates to criminal law, not consumer/common law.

it takes more than one lower court case to set a precident, but if ntl:tw keeps going the way it does
then it may just come to that , after all 1900+ lost customers and growing,could do very large damage to ntl if they made a case of it, thanks for your idea that they consider it, thats good advice.

there is masses of information in regards 'unlawful charges goods and services' coming to light as are the data controllers responseabilitys (such as the NTL:tw DC licence covers) in relation to the data protection act, consumer, and common law,thanks to the banks and DCA actions to date forcing people to sit up and take note..........

perhaps in a way , the average consumer of goods and services such as NTl provide, should be thankful to the banks etc, forcing them to, shall we say, correct the current errors NTL:tw and others are operating under in the name of mass profit.

can they keep telling/insisting us we are wrong, when its clear in law we are not, the same cant be said of the NTL:tw as it currently operates ,if NTL (their employees that make the company etc)were perhaps far more flexable in such things as the above from Okonski and so on then NTL wouldnt have lost so many customers and NTL would'nt then have a need to consider laying off workers in the UK , with perhaps more to come? .

http://search.ntlworld.com/ntlworld/...s&cr=&x=40&y=5


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