[keithwalton]

isnt that what they used to call hardware TnL. (Transform and lighting) before it became true tnl aka nfinite fx on the nvidia line of cards. run 3dmark 01 and see what it says and if it makes the blindist bit of difference. As for creative doing somthing different its unlikely but not imposible as they make there boards to reference design. Although they did do a clever trick of enableing glide on a tnt before (glide was a 3dfx only thing)

K