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Old 08-11-2004, 14:09   #557
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes

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Originally Posted by thephenom
Check out Force9 ADSL service. They have a premier and lite user package for thier home users. I feel most ISPs will use the same format. The premier user will pay for example £29.99 for 1mbit connection, unlimited download. The lite user will pay £14.99 for the same connection with a 1 gig per month download limit, but you can increase it up to 10 gig, but the price goes up with each gig.

I feel it's inevitable and soon all ISPs will be placing a download cap of some sort
Force9 / Plus.net ya.

My one concern about plus although I've heard a lot of good things about them is that since they switched their buying method from BT they are running their network bloody close to the wire now:

http://www.plus.net/support/adsl/adsl_utilisation.shtml

Bear in mind that last week they added another 155Mbps.

I was considering their services, 2Mbps, no limits for £40 a month is a good deal, I'm just rather nervous about how viable it is and how close to its' limits they are running their connectivity. They lose a single 622Mbps circuit from BT and it's congestion city, they lose a single 155Mbps and it's marginal

In ntl's case core network is more than capable of supporting twice the load it currently does, and very few users see congestion, the uBRs as a whole have a lot of overhead free now due to the big upgrades that have been done.

Just a comparison of one to another. I'm very not convinced that Plus is viable in the long term, their profit margin is tiny, and they are shortly to move all their users on home 2Mbit from the 20:1 contention BT network to the nominal 50:1, which is currently showing oversubscription in 10% of BT's exchanges (better than the 15 - 20% it was a fortnight ago).

I'd also like to take this opportunity to mention why BT aren't offering 3Mbps as a business service, and are only now getting around to offering a home version of 2Mbps - their network can't handle it. They backhaul over 90% of UK DSL, and their network simply can't handle the extra load right now.
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