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DieDieMyDarling · 04-11-2004, 19:18

We really shouldn't complain, it's a good deal to pay 25 quid for the privilege to go from an uncapped service to a service that we can only use for 58 mins per day at full swing at 3mb(69mins for 2mb, 23mins for 1mb).

In my opinion the 1mb and 2mb services are fine. Both aimed at people who aren't heavy users. Fine for browsing, emailing, online gaming, and the odd game demo download etc. But when it comes to the 3mb service, which is clearly aimed at heavy users and to only offer them an extra 33% on the cap is just stupid. If Ntl want to lead the market and be what they make out they are, then they really should add a little more common sense. For a 3mb service to really work the cap has to at least be 60gb a month. Otherwise it's just a joke.

They are expecting a HEAVY internet user to subscribe to a service that only allows them 58 mins of full use per day. LESS than the time allowed for a 2mb customer, who is supposed to use the service less!

3mb: 40GB a month = 1.3GB a day. 1.3GB a day / 370k per sec = 3513 seconds use = 58 mins full use per day.
2mb: 30GB a month = 1GB per day. 1gb a day / 240k per sec = 4166 seconds = 69.4 mins full use per day.
1mb: 5GB a month = 166mb per day. 166mb a day / 120k per sec = 1388 seconds = 23 mins full use per day.

I plan to downgrade to the 2mb service, and as soon as i can get 1mb ASDL in my area i'm going to AOL.

Just a question: By paying the 25 pound admin cost, are we signing a new 12 month contract? And thus accepting the new terms and conditions (ie. the caps)? If we choose not to upgrade/downgrade do the caps still apply? And can they enforce them as easily?

Sounds to me like Ntl have actually been very clever for once, offering faster speeds that most people won't utilize (750k users upgrading to 2mb which is of no use to them, just for the higher cap), and at the same time adding a proper cap, giving with one hand, taking away with the other... a bit like the price rise of 1mb, then upgrading to 1.5mb. :-D

The 2mb service is definately good value, and is even competitive. The 3mb service is a joke.

04-11-2004, 19:18	#298
DieDieMyDarling Inactive Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Belfast Age: 51 Services: 10 mb NTL Broadband, Sky TV (full package). Posts: 309	Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes We really shouldn't complain, it's a good deal to pay 25 quid for the privilege to go from an uncapped service to a service that we can only use for 58 mins per day at full swing at 3mb(69mins for 2mb, 23mins for 1mb). In my opinion the 1mb and 2mb services are fine. Both aimed at people who aren't heavy users. Fine for browsing, emailing, online gaming, and the odd game demo download etc. But when it comes to the 3mb service, which is clearly aimed at heavy users and to only offer them an extra 33% on the cap is just stupid. If Ntl want to lead the market and be what they make out they are, then they really should add a little more common sense. For a 3mb service to really work the cap has to at least be 60gb a month. Otherwise it's just a joke. They are expecting a HEAVY internet user to subscribe to a service that only allows them 58 mins of full use per day. LESS than the time allowed for a 2mb customer, who is supposed to use the service less! 3mb: 40GB a month = 1.3GB a day. 1.3GB a day / 370k per sec = 3513 seconds use = 58 mins full use per day. 2mb: 30GB a month = 1GB per day. 1gb a day / 240k per sec = 4166 seconds = 69.4 mins full use per day. 1mb: 5GB a month = 166mb per day. 166mb a day / 120k per sec = 1388 seconds = 23 mins full use per day. I plan to downgrade to the 2mb service, and as soon as i can get 1mb ASDL in my area i'm going to AOL. Just a question: By paying the 25 pound admin cost, are we signing a new 12 month contract? And thus accepting the new terms and conditions (ie. the caps)? If we choose not to upgrade/downgrade do the caps still apply? And can they enforce them as easily? Sounds to me like Ntl have actually been very clever for once, offering faster speeds that most people won't utilize (750k users upgrading to 2mb which is of no use to them, just for the higher cap), and at the same time adding a proper cap, giving with one hand, taking away with the other... a bit like the price rise of 1mb, then upgrading to 1.5mb. :-D The 2mb service is definately good value, and is even competitive. The 3mb service is a joke.