[sherer]

yes it's interesting that since that game both United and Arsenal have had pens in similar situations for and against them where the agrguments we used for the Rooney pen have gone against us.

The Pompey pen didn't look like a pen to me but then there was more contact than in the Rooney oneso I guess that has evened things out.

Not sure how a 6 ft 4 ins player who is as big and strong as Viera could fall over with that contact lst night. I didn't see a kick or a push so how did he fall over. yes someone's hands were on him but with no force to push him over. Wonder if all the Arsenal fans will be up in arms about that one.

Didn't think the pen against them was much either. if you watch Cole he was looking at the ball the whole time he went to swing for it but hit the man who was standing on his blind side, again with very little contact.

I wrote to the FA and UEFA and offered to re-run some of these incidents on a football pitch with them and see if anyone from normal life could fall over and simulate the same sort of fall from these challenges. Both of them never came back to me. How can these people and the refs etc believe that being tripped over makes you roll over 15 times going aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggg.