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Originally posted by Ramrod
I don't understand. You manifestly can stop a robbery or effectively prevent a burglary by shooting the perp!
How can you say that it wouldn't?
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Having gone back and re-read the original comments and responses, it seems that there's been a confusion about what's actually being talked about here.
When I said you don't "prevent" someone from robbing you by shooting them I didn't mean actively stopping them by putting a bullet into them, but deter them from planning on robbing you in the first place.
I've also realised that I missed out an "or" in my post #100 which makes the meaning of my sentence unclear.
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By saying that I assume that you feel that all those who have been found guilty of murder (through a misscarriage of justice) and then later aquitted, are still guilty of murder?!
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You can assume anything you want, I can't stop you doing that, but I never said that in the first place.
From post #117:
Quoting You: He was done for manslaughter wasn't he?
Me: Tony Martin was originally charged and convicted of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. This was later reduced to manslaughter on appeal.
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You: fact: the conviction was reduced to manslaughter, therefore he is not guilty of murder but manslaughter.
That's what's known as "moving the goalposts".
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So who is the more credible witness, the homeowner or the career **** who have gone to his home specifically to rob him?
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Sorry, are we still talking about the same mentally ill homeowner who was in possession of an illegal firearm?
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Does the fact that you appear to be a lone voice for the prosecution not tell you something?
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Yes, for instance it could tell me that I'm quite capable of making my own mind up instead of following the flock blindly like the rest of the sheep.
It could also tell me that I'm not afraid to stand up and the tell the whole world that it can go to hell and that I'm not scared of being out of step with everyone else.
Can you say the same thing? Oh and...
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In most cases a quick "oy! what you doing?" would be enough to establish wether force was necessary.
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Ramrod #79: As I have already said, it was a dark night and there were unknown numbers of burglars threatening him harm.
Ramrod #79: I'm glad you feel able to make split second decisions in the dark, in the middle of nowhere with multiple intruders on the premises. You have a cooler head than many of us.
Mark W #92: so why would someone be tip toeing around my livingroom in the dead of night with a balaklava and torch? yet i should still be polite and civil until his intent is proved? how about "oh, good morning old boy, could i help you?"
Ramrod #94: (Quoted) what if it was *you* on someone else's property who gets the kicking? "Oh well, it was my fault for looking suspicious"?
You: Thats right, I shouldn't have been trespassing/breaking and entering in the first place, at night, with an accomplice, making threats to the homeowner.
Scastle #98: I have been in a situation where a loved one was attacked (while I wasn't around) and when the attacker was pointed out to me, I chased him down the street, although I never caught him, and don't know what I would have done if I did.
Mark W #106: you are gonna creep up behind him and sock him one before he sees you then call the police
The "Prosecution" rests its case!!