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Originally Posted by Paul M
We have the mis-fortune of having a couple of programs at work that need this sun java stuff to work. It's the most awful, unstable, software I have ever come across. Great for crashing windows 
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Do you mean Java in general, or the apps you have to use? I use Java at work a lot. I find it a better language overall than VB (although I haven't touched .NET so maybe I'm being a bit unfair on MS) and I just don't get C++

so Java suits me