[themelon]

Strictly speaking however the ntl 'cap' isnt really a 'cap' in the terms that these other 'cheap and nasty' providers will see it. IE I exceed my ntl cap frequently......trick is dont do it 3 days in a row, and the dont care.

Also the speeds mentioned are totally theoretical its likely that most people on a 512k ADSL service NEVER recieve the full service due to contention.

I still cant see the point of paying £19.99 for a capped service to download XP Service pack 2 (which royally screwed my computer anyway) when you can order a free update CD from microsoft using dial up and save the hassle!

Another note........BT dont tell you up front if your line is crap, they just dont tell you, then they deny it, then they say tough you will just have to put up with it! Been there done that at my old house a crackly line that they wouldnt replace because it cost too much......which meant too much noise for usable ADSL.

Personally I have Never had a problem with ntl customer service.....but have had plenty with BT. Once on losing service I had to ring them from a call box........they then ran a line test on the call box and told me there was NO fault.......after 30 minutes of arguing I managed to persude there was a problem and they reluctantly sent an engineer, who didnt come.

The information about ntl needed to replace the network is bull....its in a much better state than the 1930s Copper Cable local loops that BT have on their hands (OK inner city areas like London are good with Third party investment like Bulldog) but outer city areas will strugle to get 1Mb if that, much of the cable network is capable of running 8Mbs with a few minor modifications if there were suffieicent demand.....which there isnt currently. Britain has always been a nation of browsers and still is!