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Originally Posted by andy 1
so thats why they want to ban hunting with dogs is it,class envy.
well i don't envy any of the pompous people in the house of lords,and i certainly don't have to be upper class to know that hunting with dogs is a cruel sport.
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Yes, and I think you need to be very careful about assuming that those who have voted to outlaw hunting have done so for the same reasons as you oppose it.
Let me be clear about this, for me personally the jury is out on the cruelty issue. I don't claim to know enough about it, and I don't accept blindly the deliberately emotive descriptions of foxes being 'torn to shreds' which are clearly designed to conclude the argument without allowing any rational discussion to take place. When I get a chance to look at it properly I might well conclude that we are better off without hunting.
However, the ban has been brought about by back-bench pressure led by a cabal of Old Labour class warriors (Dennis Skinner and the like, who frankly insulted our Parliamentary tradition during the debate by shouting that the Lords should be told to 'go to hell' over the issue). This is not just my isolated opinion, I've been Googling (so far unsuccessfully) to find you the ravings of the Guardian columnist who was interviewed on Radio 4 earlier this week and admitted candidly this very point. The banning of hunting with hounds is for these people about dismantling one of the few remaining elements of a feudal society dominated by aristocrats, and to them is as important as was removing hereditary Peers from the House of Lords.