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Old 16-09-2004, 20:50   #10
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Re: NTL PS2 Woes

To add to the echo....


1) No need at all to change from an STB to a SACM for your BB, if you want to use a PS2 online.

2) You can use a PS2 online via an STB. Just clone your PS2's MAC address onto your PC (as BBKIng said) & go through the STB registration....or get a cheap router


Don't be sucked in by ntl's BS about having to pay for the 2 IP service if you want to use a console.


ntl's T&Cs....


User Policy & use of routers:

http://www.home.ntl.com/page/userpolicy

Quote:
20. Use of the Network (Broadband services)

You are permitted to use routers, and the connection of a dedicated hardware router or firewall shall not be considered a PC for the purposes of this section.

User policy & consoles:

http://www.home.ntl.com/page/userpolicy

Quote:
21. Gaming Consoles

You may only connect XBox gaming consoles to the NTL network using a designated Xbox compatible broadband access product.

Users may only connect PlayStation 2 gaming consoles to the ntl network using a designated PlayStation 2 compatible broadband access product.

Which I take to mean that my XBox connection method (I use a Linksys WRT54G, & before that I used a Linksys BEFSR41) is OK wrt the AUP/T&Cs, because the router in question has been designated as XBox compatible by Microsoft (the AUP/T&Cs don't say it has to be "designated" by NTL! ).


There is, in my opinion, absolutely no justification for ntl to charge console users extra. The T&Cs allow the use of up to 3 PCs, & they allow the use of a router, so WTF should an XBox/PS2 owner have to pay extra, especially for something so pointless as a 2nd IP? (pointless as it's cheaper in the long run, as well as better anyway, to just get a router!)


Besides, if you do a direct connection, or use a router, or use ICS, they won't know you're using an XBox/PS2 anyway.
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