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Old 11-09-2004, 00:25   #90
andygrif
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Re: smoking and the pub

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Originally Posted by Salu
That's not a choice. That's enforced discrimination. What about the antithesis? If you want a fag DONT go to a public place. Stay at home.
But so is what you're proposing. At least with my suggestion you have the chouce of where to go if you don't want to be near smokers. What you're proposing is an outright ban on any smoking in public places. What I'm proposing is places where people who choose to smoke can go, and those that choose not to can go. You can't have it both ways.

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Originally Posted by Salu
Yes I used to smoke as a kid but my main motivation is from seeing so many people die. Maybe unneccessarily.
You know what they say about ex-smokers You should take it up again - it'll help you relax!

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Exactly! If I want to go to a pub, I can't because of smokers. They are doing something there that actively damages my health if I go there. How about if I was to go to a public place and spray a carcinogenic substance around on a regular basis the sole reason being that I find it relaxing and enjoyable to do so........unreasonable? Thats what smokers do...and then they say that if we don't like it we shouldn't be where they are!
Why are you criminalising the smoker, when the person you have the problem with (reading between the lines) is the owner of the establishment? If smoking is permitted in a location then they will smoke there.

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Originally Posted by Bill C
Do you not have any non smoking pubs in your area. I do and thats where i go unless i am with friends who smoke then i make the choice to go with them to a pub that allows them to smoke.
Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Julian
IMO there should be smoking and non-smoking pubs.

It simply isn't reasonable to expect non-smokers to have to endure smoking in all pubs....conversely it is unreasonable for non-smokers to expect all pubs to be non-smoking.
Agreed, just like I said about three pages back. I wouldn't want any non-smoker to have to endure any location where they might be offended or afraid for their health. Therefore more non-smoking pubs are the way forward...just one problem - they don't make any money - so do non-smokers not go to the pub?

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Originally Posted by Nikko
They could always sit outside and not smoke

I don't want their annoyng moans wafting over me when i am chuffing
That's OK, your coughing will drown them out
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