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Originally Posted by greencreeper
All about them is chaos and yet the planners keep tweaking the plan and thinking it's all under control  If you have to keep altering the plan, bin it and start again - a plan should be altered infrequently.
Key things - be realistic with your planning ( know how long things will take), build in plenty of milestones, and monitor the plan - the sooner you know things are going tits up, the sooner you can allocate more resources, scream at contractors... Keep activities as atomic as possible, and run as many activities simultaneously as you can.
I'm not big on planning to be honest - IME too much time goes into planning and not enough into the doing. I once attended a meeting to decide the date for the meeting at which we'd decide what we're going to do! 
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that sounds like where i work
thanks for the posts guys