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Old 06-09-2004, 14:07   #53
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Re: What did hit the Pentagon?

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Originally Posted by Chris T
And so it falls apart. The evidence supports the conclusion that the terrorists were intent on using planes to attack buildings; that they hijacked four planes to that end; that they succeeded on three counts and failed on the fourth. There is no credible evidence that positively asserts the Pentagon was hit by something other than Flight 77. There is only the usual conspiracy theorist's fare: questioning the evidence for a conclusion they don't like with a series of contradictory, badly researched statements. (Such as the classic, 'it was definitely a bomb, I could smell the cordite'. )
True, but from what I have seen there is enough evidence to question it.

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If there is some doubt. Which there isn't.
There is doubt in my mind.

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And here is the core of all good conspiracy theories. The unquestionable (not to mention entirely unproveable) assumption that the government must have something to hide.
Of course its unproveable. What you want me to prove it? Pierre secret agent. Of course it's unproveable.

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Now you're just floating about in cloud cookoo land. This whole event unfolded in the full glare of the international news media. Which quick-witted special agent do you suppose managed to cook up all that false information, and do it so fast that everyone (including United Airlines, or whoever it was) believed it too? And made the world believe that 70-odd non-existent people endured fake deaths in the name of covering up some super-missile hijacked by Bin Laden? And convinced 70 families to go through 70 staged funerals? Get real.
Very far fetched I'd have to agree

[quote]Spoke the expert in aircraft disasters. Another classic symptom of the conspiracy theory: armchair 'experts' who know what cordite sounds like, what kind of pattern aircraft make when they hit the ground and the way in which a fuselage will crumple when subjected to high-velocity impact.[quote]

As I mentioned to Graham, I do have some knowledge of structures. There are impact standards that have to be applied to structures of a certain height. The Pentagon had several walls of thick reinforced concrete. The jets that hit the WTC only went essentially through glass and steel and they disintegrated almost immediately. Yes they left an entry hole but neither plane made it through the building. The Pentagons construction is far beyond that of the WTC yet we are to beleive the plane distintegrated on impact but still managed to penetrate the 3 rings of the building.


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No, I will believe what the evidence overwhelmingly suggests I should believe. Believing what you want to believe is a hobby enjoyed by conspiracy theorists.
As you wish
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