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Old 29-07-2004, 21:29   #33
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Re: why are black people underachievers ?

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Originally Posted by BBKing
That Nelson Mandela never gets off his arse, does he?

Remove the word 'black' from the whole palaver and it comes down to a rich middle aged man complaining about what a let down the Youth of Today are. This has been said by every older generation about every younger generation since Before the Dawna Time.

As for language, the great thing about English is that it's constantly evolving (as opposed to, say, French). There's nothing better or worse about black street slang than any other English dialect. It's not the words you use so much as what you're saying with them, and there are plenty of interesting things being said.

Rap and hip-hop have a bad reputation because people can easily pick out parts of songs that glorify violence, drugs, guns, money, objectify women or use bad language, and miss the bits that say 'stand up for yourself', 'get an education', 'respect people'. This is demonisation and close to outright racism.

You don't, unless you're Mary Whitehouse or mad (same thing, really) condemn rock and roll on the basis of lines like:

'Out of the doorway/The bullets rip/Another one bites the dust'
'The squirminââ‚à ƒ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ dog whoââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s just had her day/Under my thumb/A girl who has just changed her ways'
'Clearly I remember pickinââ‚Ãâ €šÂ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢ on the boy/Seemed a harmless little f!ck'
'Turn off your mind, relax and float downstream'
''Who the f!ck do you think you are/Get out of my hair/who the f!ck do you think you are/Comin' round here'
'So you can make me *** that doesn't make you Jesus'
'C!ck-sucker Tammy get your mother f!ckin' dammy/We're goin' downtown to the C!ck-Suckers' Ball/F!ck, suck an' fight/'Till beginnin' of the broad daylight'

Polo mint to first person to name the song and writers...
Doesn't mean that he and every other old fart doesn't actually have a point.

Young black males in the US and the UK do have a proportionally high group of under achievers.Now we could just ignore it,but it would to me as an educator suck if we just ignored the problem.If we don't do something,one of these days it will bite us.

However as long as the resultant riots aren't on our doorsteps why should we worry?

Come on doesn't anyone have any ideas?

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