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Old 15-07-2004, 10:40   #37
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Re: The Butler Report

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Originally Posted by Damien
Stop using the BBC as an example nothing should have happened there. I like how biased the sun, the times and to a small extent sky news was though. SOMEONE seemed to be telling them to rub salt in the bbc wounds...
Not only are the two intrinsically linked, but you can also draw the fact that the two situations had public inquiries and reports published. I agree, the outcome was not a good one, but based on the findings of the Hutton Inquiry (cough, whitewash) Gavyn and Greg resigned. They were accountable, but they were not to blame.

The problem now is that we can look at these two reports and see that there is contradictory information. For example Andrew Gilligan was found to have got his story about the government going to war on unsafe inteligence. But now Butler finds that the inteligence was not beyond doubt. So how on earth could Hutton publish such findings before Butler produced his?

Surely this mitigates Gilligan, Dyke and Davies? Will they be re-instated? Of course not!


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Originally Posted by Damien
Blair has to be servered but those people and the buck should stop with the head of JIC.
Sorry to go back to Gilligan again but with his investigation he found the intel was dubious. If a journalist on the outside can find this out then Blair can too. If the Head of JIC took the decision to go to war then I would agree with you, but it wasn't, it was Blair. He took the decision, the buck stops there.

The problem Blair has now is that he has personally lost a lot of face with an wful lot of people. Many who trusted him before now will not believe a word he says, and two separate inquiries (and a third on the way) that totally disconnect the Government and Blair from any responsibility or blame are seen (rightly or wrongly) as whitewshes.

The real problem Labour has now is whether they will be re-elected next year with Blair at the healm. The same goes for Bush, although his problem is little more urgent becuse it's in November.
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