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Originally Posted by Graham
You have not "tried to be nice", you have dodged, obfuscated, evaded, generalised and skirted points instead of engaging in debate. Every time I point this out, however, you complain "can we stay on topic" and "stop talking about me" as if *I* am the one in the wrong!
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I already said I was as bad as you for carrying it on the first place, but someone has to try and keep this thread in order. And no, I don't just say that to skirt the issue. If you want to talk about issues irrelevent to the topic, then start a new thread on the topic you want to dicuss, or PM me. I think after this, I should ignore anything that is wildly off-topic, but of course, i'll be dodging wouldn't I? Hmmm. I can't be arsed to type "Let's get back on topic", everytime you want to talk about conspiracy theories about congressmen murdering interns, or the Iraqi WMD issue. You said near the end that you'd stop if I stopped first. Funny how i'm the one that suggested that maybe our posts didn't have even a vague connection with BFC in the first place. It also sounds really mature of you too
. Still, i'll accede to your request and not reply to anything that has nothing to do with BFC, or Moore
directly. I'll save the points I was thinking about when reading your post anyway in case you are ever interested.
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Originally Posted by Graham
Where did *I* say *you* said Moore tries to do this? Oh, I didn't. But you were talking about anti-Moore sites which *do* claim this.
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I think the whole "Is Moore calling people unpatriotic/idiotic/etc..?" subjective. I'm sure some would feel he was, and others say he wasn't.
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Originally Posted by Graham
Is that a taste of sour grapes I detect? Still, I'm sure that's off topic.
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The Wilson movie is off topic, unless it directly refers to Moore (I.E. accusing Moore of something you could argue to be relevent to this topic, but certainly not who funds it). However, the points I made about Moore's history I think is a very fascinating incite (IMO) into the real Michael Moore and so, on topic. Some hero, eh?
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Originally Posted by Graham
It is? Again you claim "off topic" when we're talking about Michael Moore, this time about those that attack him. Odd definition of "off topic" you have.
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I said it above briefly, but i'll explain it again fully. Michael Moore is the writer, director and producer of BFC. He
is, for all intents and purposes BFC. It is hard to talk about BFC without talking about Moore. Wether some congressman killed his intern has nothing to do with Moore or the movie. Moore accusing a, so far innocent (Hmm, that "innocent til proven guilty" line you speak of doesn't seem to apply if you are right-wing, eh?) however has everything to do with what a piece of work Moore is.
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Originally Posted by Graham
Thank you very much for your opinions on what you consider to be "off topic" in this thread. However pardon me if I keep my own counsel about what is relevant to the discussion because our views seem to diverge somewhat!!
You can think what you want. It is just: BFC -> Congressman allegedly murders his intern. If you can explain how the alledged crime and cover up itself has any bearing on the movie or Moore, then do it. Or Just start up a new thread like: "Did Joe Scarborough murder his intern?"
(PS What does Spielberg and Schindler's List have to do with Moore or BFC? Just asking...!)
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It is evidence to support my original claim, about Moore. I'm not going great depths about WW2.