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Originally Posted by punky
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What evidence is there that his comment is "an off hand humourous joke"?
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None, but if I ever find out he is running a right-wing-anti-socialist-militia, i'll appologise. |
So you admit your comment was based solely on your *opinion*, not facts.
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That was a joke. Taking what you said to absurdium for comedic value. The joke being if he is right-wing he must be evil, trying to crush socialism, right?
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No, it wasn't a joke as far as I could see. Starting a joke with the words "I know you'd like to believe..." makes it sound like a personal attack.
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Incidently, he said "Fight Socialism", because he believes Capitalism is the way to go. If I said "Fight Racism" because I think tolerance is the way to go, you wouldn't attack that, would you?
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Taxi! Follow those goalposts!!
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You are confusing had and have? Everyone knows Saddam had weapons, because he, you know, used them.
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Yes, *had*
past tense. But what he may have had the past was *not* a justification for invading *now*.
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I didn't move the goalposts. If you actually look at my post, I responded to your point, in the second paragraph
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Whilst ignoring the *prior context*. Hence: Moved goalposts.
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Also, he has never made "a point" about us trying to discredit him, aside from calling us "wackos", and if you listen to him, apparently most of America are Stupid White Men, evil anti-Moore conservatives, etc.
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No, that's *your* opinion of what he has said.
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Actually, your PM just said the same thing reworded. You didn't explain anything.
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Funny, I could have sworn that's exactly what I *did* do...
[QUOTE]did I *say* you wanted to "turn this into a fight"? Oops, no, I didn't...
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That is rich coming from you isn't it? Whose discussional tone is confrontational on an easy day. Who tries to turn every friendly discussion into a virtual fist fight? Who derises anyone who belives in something other than you. Who treats virtually everyone like a piece of s**t?
I don't know what planet you are on but I am very much the opposite. Regardless of people, I refuse to attack them, even if their opinions are way out of line. Even if someone was fanatically racist, I wouldn't agree with them, but I still wouldn't attack them for it. Unlike you I don't like going round picking fights, life's too short.
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Punky, you really need to learn something about the nature of debate.
You seem to consider that someone disagreeing with you is automatically being "confrontational", but you don't seem to understand that I debate *points* not "personalities".
I do *NOT* "attack people", I have not "attacked" you. The only thing I have "attacked" are your false assumptions, your attempts to put words into my mouth and your taking points out of context to try to make a point.
I do not, despite what you claim, "try to turn every friendly discussion into a virtual fist fight" I most certainly have not treated anyone "like a piece of s**t" and I will thank you not to make comments like that again otherwise I will find it necessary to make an official complaint about *your* personal attacks on me!
If you wish to discuss this further I suggest you put it in a PM instead of a public forum.
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I like how you always flip perspectives whenever it suits you. You bring up the original point, that "Guns aren't constructive to society". So I say: "Yes they are", and give an example, just for clarity. Suddenly i'm the one who is veering from the topic? I just inverted what you said.
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And again you miss out the context in which the original remark was posted
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No, blenders aren't irrelevent. The point was, to open up that CD you could choose many items, not just guns. On of the big things that Moore fans say, is that "Why can't that bank offer something other than guns?". Well, it does. Moore doesn't like to tell you that though, because it weakens his argument somewhat.
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You can back this up with cites? NB *I* have never said "Why can't that bank offer something other than guns?"
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Now, I fully expect you to ignore me, but we can keep this thread on BFC and Moore, and less of you trying to assassinate my character and personality? Thanx.
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What was that expression? Oh yes: "That's a bit rich...!" You want *me* to stop "trying to assassinate my character and personality" (something which I have never done, nor would stoop to) but you couch that in a personal attack on *my* character and personality "I fully expect you to ignore me"
Paging Messers Pott and Kettle-Black.
