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Originally Posted by mrmassive
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Originally Posted by Graham
One of the reasons that these youths get involved with "extremists" like Abu Hamza is that they feel *alienated* in this country and your attitude and what you propose is simply going to *increase* that feeling of alienation.
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If they dont like it leave .Alienation like at the postoffice today .Me and my wife was the minority. |
Well, as someone just said, if you don't like it *leave*.
Oh, but it's *your* country, isn't it? Well actually for many of them it's now *their* country too!
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just cos your alienated dos'nt justify planning the murder and deaths of innocent lives
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I never said it did. But what should we do about it? Behave in a way that *increases* the risk of alienation and extremism? Or have an inclusive society?
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And, of course, our government doesn't rubber stamp bogus applications because they're too stupid to listen to warnings from the people who should know better.
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Thats labour for you dont forget most of them are here illegally.
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Who? Labour...?!
But seriously "most of them are here illegally"? Really? Can you provide cites to back this up?
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Well actually the answer is *yes*. We've been doing it since the days of Empire! Except these days we don't use troops, we just use financial muscle.
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We don't use troops .So our troops just go on holiday?????????? How come some of them have lost their lives on vacation????????
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So when you said "Can we go and tell them how to run their lives ect. The answer to that is no." you actually meant "the answer to that is
yes"?
Just checking...
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We need to make these people part of *our* community, not exclude them because "they don't fit" or "they won't do it *our* way"
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The problem with that is that the hardliners in their british communitys wont ajust.Like marriages they still arrange them. See it that way the eyes of a lass been over here for lets say 18yrs then she has to goback to india or he comes over here and she is forced by rules not of this country. The old and the new dos'nt work.
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So how do we fix that? Do we turn around and say "right, now you live in our country, you're going to have to throw away your traditions and do it *our* way"?
Hmm, that's *really* going to give us an inclusive society and will not in any way pander to the extremists!!
(Why does this remind me of Norman Tebbit saying that immigrants should support the *England* team at sporting events...?!)
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Ther point is when they come over here get houses food clothing ect dont have to pay for shopping ec like at the supermarket except for beer wine spirits fags ect. When the government pays for empty houses for these people or the s.seekers. then there will always be problems .
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And don't forget they're taking hard-earned money out of the pocket of British Taxpayers and stealing our jobs and destroying our communities and all the other stuff you read about in The Sun...
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As for the leciester problem i had that was about 20yrs ago .The problem ended that nite.
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Would you care to explain this comment???