ok I thought I'd update this thread!
I'm now a Sky customer! seeya NTL (TV only, keeping my BB and TV).
Sky's deal
Sky+ is £149
Minidish and digibox = FREE (planning to put this in the bedroom

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Installation = FREE
Sky+ subscription: £40 pm for all packages (movies, sports and family pack)
Normal sky subcription for the normal digibox, for the bedroom = FREE
TOTAL cost
One off purchase of Sky+ box of £149
monthly cost of £40 for Sky+ and normal Sky.
Can anyone honestly say NTL can even try to beat this!!!!!
All I need to do now is stop my NTL TV