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Old 03-07-2004, 15:39   #18
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Re: Bowling for Columbine

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Originally Posted by Graham
Two sites with a *blatant* Pro-Bush, Republican bias ("Let's make a Ronald Regan dollar coin", "Click here to thank Tony Blair (for his help in Iraq)" etc etc. Not exactly what I would call "impartial comment"
Just because they are run by right-wingers (not pro-Bush or republicans, there is a crucial difference), does it mean what they say is any less true? Of course not. And if you check out moorewatch.com's blog, you'll see he actually criticizes Bush a lot. Don't forget that a big part of what are on those sites are links to articles in papers etc, that other people have done.

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Originally Posted by DrWadd
It will be interesting to see what "lies" people claim there are in Farenheigh 9/11, as he has hired a team of independent fact checkers, and has a team of lawyers on stand-by should anyone attempt to defame him. If he is willing to fight his corner in court, that indicates to me a man who is pretty damn confident of his stance.
It would be interesting. moorewatch.com has already starting picking holes in F/911. They all said they won't be persuaded from it, which is nice. I don't think they have much to worry about. Remember the "wacko attackos" bit? Laughable response to genuine errors in his films.

The trouble is with law suits is that he is a really known as Teflon Mike - Nothing sticks. Back in Roger & Me he really evilly screwed over a friend and munipulated him on camera. Moore was sued and WB paid out on his behalf, but it was turned over on appeal.

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Originally Posted by DrWadd
Regardless of anything else, in Bowling for Columbine he did get WalMart(?) to stop stocking ammunition, and I can`t see anyone defending the ramblings of Charlton Heston at the end of the film, he was quite offensively racist.
It was K-Mart. Who have since gone out of business I think, or taken over by Target. It wasn't much of a victory though thought, because I think K-Mart were planning it months before, I think.

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Originally Posted by RichardM
I thought the bank who offered a free gun as an incentive to open a new account was pretty stupid.
Again, it isn't what he tells you that are lies, it is what doesn't. Like a true magician. To get your "free gun", you have to open up a $5000 savings account (which is locked for something like 20 years). If someone wanted a gun, they could easily go to a guy on the street and pay less than that with no cooling off period or background check. The bank does both. They allow you to pick the gun up from the bank after the checks are complete, but they are licensed to, so what is the problem? Also note, there is a whole catalog of things you can have instead of a gun. Just opening up a $200 CD and getting a blender doesn't sound as good.


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Originally Posted by Earl OF Bronze
My friend's father-in-law was in Belfast for a holiday a couple of weeks ago, his first trip outside the US since he was in Vietnam as a US Army Ranger engaged in Operation Pheonix. Peggy's father was kind enough to renew my open invatation to visit then at any time. But I told him that in good consience I would have to decline. I feel it impinges on my human rights, to be treated as a criminal the moment I step of the plane, just because I wish to visit a foreign country. Namely, I REFUSE TO BE FINGERPRINTED FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN BECAUSE I AM NOT AMERICAN
You have it wrong. Only visa holders are subject to the US-VISIT system. Even if you have a visa, I don't think there is anything personally stopping you from travelling under a visa waiver, but he might not be too impressed when he spots your visa and asks why you aren't using it.

This book about him is great (Well, only read the first few chapters so far). It is telling you about his persona and his early days which explains a lot like why he is, who he is. Also just found out, after NBC dropped TV Nation because unsuprisingly it was poo and noone watched it, Fox decided to give it another go. Fancy that. Why have principles when you can have money instead? And then everyone still thought it was poo and noone watched it, so they dropped it.
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