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**Damien** · 27-06-2004, 23:07

What did people think of the Panorama program about the churchs claim that condoms do not protect against AIDS? Although the church may be right about condoms not prevents the spread of aids this was due to other reasons and mainly down to other factors in africa. (e.g wrong size, bad storage)

But as for 'does the condom protect against it?' The evidance was in favor of it does protect.

They showed a survey where people who had reguler sex with a infected person and used a condom. 99% of people did not catch it and the other 1% was down to mis-use and people not using condoms when they said they did.

Now for the way you can catch HIV though a condom (when used correctly)

1. Have sex with a infected person
2. The extremely unlikely event of getting a condom with a hole in it
3. The equally unlikely event of the virus getting though (even a condom with a hole in it is unlikely to have a hole big enough to allow hiv though)
4. The also unlikely event that you do get affected

The study from which the church took there "there can be up to 35% chance it gets though" from a report which they misquoted which showed that on the condoms with the biggest holes only 1 small dot of water got though and HIV is 5x bigger than a water molecule. Also the test applied a lot more presser than a real case would.

Basically a condom is very very safe if it is used correctly. Also the chances of catching the virus (even if your partner has HIV) has the same chance of a plane your in crashing, lower than 0.5%. (Thats if your partner has HIV)

Now the question i am asking is not if we should teach people the correct use as this is important and goes without saying. The churches claims where based on a condom being used correctly and so was the results

The question is this: What is your view about the church saying that condoms do not protect against AIDS when they clearly are very effective?

These claims came from the Catholic Church although this was from the vatican, most people with in this church do not agree with the claims

27-06-2004, 23:07	#1
Damien Remoaner Cable Forum Mod Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 33,034	AIDS/Panorama What did people think of the Panorama program about the churchs claim that condoms do not protect against AIDS? Although the church may be right about condoms not prevents the spread of aids this was due to other reasons and mainly down to other factors in africa. (e.g wrong size, bad storage) But as for 'does the condom protect against it?' The evidance was in favor of it does protect. They showed a survey where people who had reguler sex with a infected person and used a condom. 99% of people did not catch it and the other 1% was down to mis-use and people not using condoms when they said they did. Now for the way you can catch HIV though a condom (when used correctly) 1. Have sex with a infected person 2. The extremely unlikely event of getting a condom with a hole in it 3. The equally unlikely event of the virus getting though (even a condom with a hole in it is unlikely to have a hole big enough to allow hiv though) 4. The also unlikely event that you do get affected The study from which the church took there "there can be up to 35% chance it gets though" from a report which they misquoted which showed that on the condoms with the biggest holes only 1 small dot of water got though and HIV is 5x bigger than a water molecule. Also the test applied a lot more presser than a real case would. Basically a condom is very very safe if it is used correctly. Also the chances of catching the virus (even if your partner has HIV) has the same chance of a plane your in crashing, lower than 0.5%. (Thats if your partner has HIV) Now the question i am asking is not if we should teach people the correct use as this is important and goes without saying. The churches claims where based on a condom being used correctly and so was the results The question is this: What is your view about the church saying that condoms do not protect against AIDS when they clearly are very effective? These claims came from the Catholic Church although this was from the vatican, most people with in this church do not agree with the claims