I have done as advised by

breath above and we will see what come back. I have also had a reply from NTL tech support in short they want some evidence that the NTL web page causes a problems. (pull more hair out) also it would seem I am the only person to complain about this problem out of two million subscribers (pull even more hair out)
The only way to stop the code affecting the site is:
1: change the code on goldonian.org so when a person clicks on the badge it opens in a new window and not the same frame, This seems to sort the problem but leaves the front window open behind the pages viewed so will cause a problem for the old boys with win95 with 16meg PCs I have revamped the page with a plain colour, removed the Java clips and removed the sound file.
2: Donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t use the NTL page as the home page. The problem with this is the old boys donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t have any relevant information on NTL gaining access to their accounts and most of them like the news section.
3: Dump the first frame, I only have this page as I was advised that the search engines dont like framed pages?? is this true