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Old 03-06-2004, 15:25   #29
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Re: NTL price increase and their reasons

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Originally Posted by Neil
Not forgetting Central Point who offer 2MB DSL for the same price as ntl's 1MB BB!

Not only that, but there are no caps/"guidelines" in place, & no 12 month contract.

http://www.cpbb.co.uk/index.htm
The pricing is no doubt competitive, and the service they are advertising is also competitive.

However I think people posted on this thread are looking too much at cost. Simply because you pay less doesnt mean your anywhere near likely to get 'that' level of service.

We'll take CP as an example - they're a datastream provider and as such can not provide pings less than 50 - a major downfall for competitive gamers.

So I expect someone to tell me - they're not a gamer, they dont worry about pings. Ok fair point, but dont for one minute expect to get your full 2mbps download rates consistently, datastream is well known for its contention at a local level, so instead of 15,000 users contending on 1 155mbps pipe, you end up contending with 50 people on 2mbps with only 1 1mbps pipe. Same contention ratio, however the odds of you actually experiencing contention just went up 100 fold.

Something everyone on any forum discussing broadband or any product should bare in mind is that you pay for what you get, bar a few companies who are extortionate for the services they provide you must find a balance between the amount of money you pay and the service levels you receive. NTL generally is quite good at that (in its areas that dont suffer from major contention on upstreams and the alike)

I would just like to point out that ADSL is not the holy grail people make it out to be. Just because some of the providers are cheaper - it most certainly does not mean they're worth signing up for - not if you expect to see a decent service. ADSL is a great deal harder to understand as there are also so many variants of it: IPstream, Datastream, LLU, etc. All of which operate at different levels.

Oh and at risk of offending you Neil, I do have to point out Pipex's mail servers are probably just as reliable (or not in this case) as NTL's). Sorry, but it is within the theme of my post, and the original topic
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