I tried some traceroutes earlier (well last night) and it seemed to spike on or after the following things: lutn-t2cam1-a-ge911.inet.ntl.com [80.4.118.17], or lutn-t2core-a-ge-wan64.inet.ntl.com [213.107.47.89] , so I don't know what they are and was always at around 150ms, no more no less, which was quite bizarre. It may very well be a ubr but i'm not an ntl tech and probably shouldn't have said it probably wasn't
