[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

<snip>(or the union jack for that matter) <snip>

The Union Jack is only a Jack when it is on a boat, otherwise it is a Union Flag
The Union Jack is only a Jack when it is on a boat, otherwise it is a Union Flag
The Union Jack is only a Jack when it is on a boat, otherwise it is a Union Flag

Unless Mr_love_monkey you live on a boat when I apologise unreservedly.

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

We need to 'take back' our flag - so once again we can be proud of it, and not feel like it's a dirty secret that no one is supposed to know about.

Thats better.

Originally Posted by towny

<snip>The distinction is important, as the English are alone among the nations of the UK in failing to hold in their heads a clear distinction between Britain and England, and between the Union Flag and the George Cross <snip>

I deliberately used the phrase 'a very narrow-minded kind of English nationalism' as opposed to 'an English National Party' as I do not want to suggest that the BNP is to England what PC or the SNP are to Wales and Scotland.

But England is also the only nation in the UK that does not have it's own parliament. We have to share ours with the Welsh, Scottish and Irish, and obtusely enough the Government has most of it's power as a result of Scottish MPs who can ignore the laws they pass down here and pass different ones in Scotland anyway, the University tuition fees is a good example of this.