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Originally Posted by ZrByte
Its so true, in B5 nothing is clear cut. In most SciFi you are given basic ground rules, these are the bad guys, we are the good guys etc,
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Oh gods, tell me about it. Also (although B5 is also somewhat guilty of this) you get alien "monocultures". There's lots of variety where humans are concerned (and who, of course, come from Earth, not "human), but you get Romulans from Romulus, Klingons from Klingon (although later ret-conned to Q'ronus or whatever wierd spelling it is), Narns from the Narn Homeworld, and Centauri from Centauri Prime and the ones you see on screen are a sort of archetype (or cliche) of the entire culture.
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all it took was the word of Kosh for the Vorlon fleet to openly attack the shadows, and all it took was his death for the Vorlons to loose thier sanity (Just like when the minbari attacked the humans).
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I don't think it was quite that, but since the Vorlons and the Shadows had been fighting through intermediaries for so long that maybe it was just that they decided that now the gloves were off they were going to win this thing once and for all.
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I awlays had a feeling they where going to elaborate on this slightly, the vorlon that replaced kosh is clearly the same vorlon that is with Kosh in Dukats quarters in the movie 'In The Beggining' I was wondering if maybe there are two sides to a vorlon (A dark and a light)
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From what I've read of the background to B5 (which is a fair bit!), originally JMS planned on having the Great War being effectively a civil war between the two "halves" of the Vorlons which was why the Minbari with the Changeling net was able to poison Kosh in the Pilot episode, because he knew the "weak spot" in Kosh's encounter suit.
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I did like Marcus, but he was never a favourite of mine, the charactor itself wasnt the problem its that at times he was too English to be English, reflecting the typical stereotype Americans seem to have of us (dont get me wrong I think hes cool, Its just some of the things he said could make me shudder, not because of what he said but because of how he said them).
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Ok, yes, I can see that, but it wasn't really his fault was it? And *NO* American could *EVER* deliver that wonderful line "Bloody hell!" right!