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Originally Posted by ZrByte
so while we are on the subject of sci-fi baddies & goodies and stupid plots, lets hear your favourite....
favourite....
Baddie - Shadows from Babylon 5, not only did they look cool but they looked scary and seemed rather evil
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Oh yes! I remember when B5 was first being shown and the discussions that were going on in the Fidonet B5 chat echoes! When we caught our first glimpses of the Shadow Ships the reaction was one of amazement and shock. As Keffer described them "They look like a cross between a spider and your worst nightmare"!
Alternatively, Servalan from Blake's 7, totally evil bitch in such a pretty package!
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Plot line - Another B5 one, the Earth Civil War, main plot line for beggining of series 3 & the second half of series 4 of babylon 5
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Again, agreed. "Messages from Earth", "Severed Dreams" and "Point of No Return" are three of the most powerful episodes with their own mini-arc that *really* drive home the point that there is just *no way back* for the B5 crew. I also loved the Series 3 intro monologue:
"Babylon 5 was our last, best hope for peace.
"It failed".
Or the episode "Pressure Point" in Blake's 7 where Blake thinks they're about to destroy the Federation's Control Centre only to find that it's a trap and Gan dies as they try to escape.
Hmm, not so sure here, after all, the Vorlons weren't so good after all, even though Kosh ended up more helping the good guys.
For me in B5 it's Marcus Cole, he was just *sooo* cool!
Disappearing on B4 and then popping up saying "well, that would be the most inconvenient time for us to be captured, so it was most likely to happen"
And I loved the Minbari fighting pike!
In Blake's 7 it's got to be Avon, although again, he's hardly a good guy!
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least favourite.....baddie -
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1) The Xindi from ST:Enterprise, talk about a bunch of hams!
2) The Borg. By the time we got to Voyager, despite all their powers and the races they've assimilated somehow Janeway and crew managed to run rings around them which was ludicrous.
The entire ST:Enterprise storyline. Too many to mention, but them finding excuses to get T'Pol to take her top off has to rank highly (or is that lowly?!)
goodie - Tough call between Sisko & Janeway
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funny how all my fav SciFi moments are from B5 and all my least favourite are from Startrek,
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Odd that, innit!
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though I have always said that B5 had a more realistic outlook of the future, even if it is a more depressing outlook
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The reason being, in part, that JMS loved Blake's Seven, it was so totally downbeat. Star Trek is stuck with Roddenberry's "Wouldn't it be nice if everyone was nice" idea of a universe, so the good guys always save the day and (eventually) convince the baddies that they should change their ways. JMS is more grown up than that!