[andygrif]

Originally Posted by towny

So we agree on something - they are very good at promoting themselves. However I think they are actually very well aware of what they are fighting for. Their website is very informative:

http://www.fathers-4-justice.org/objectives/index.html

Yeah I read that site a few days ago, after hearing the tirade of one of their 'members'. Frankly it doesn't have a great deal of substance, it's just cherry picking a few rules and laws that they don't agree with.

They offer very little in the way of sensible discussion-fodder, very little in the way of fact, very little in the way of solutions to the 'problems' - what they do seem to want to do is stir up trouble for the fun of it - and today was another very good example of this attitude.