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Originally Posted by towny
I beg to differ. Fathers 4 Justice has mounted a prolonged and highly visible publicity campaign that has begun to focus public attention on their issue. They have done so by causing disruption, yet without putting anyone's life in danger, thus not alienating public opinion. Our modern political system is highly sensitive to public opinion and media attention. The politicians may whinge that these tactics will only result in them being excluded from the table, but history shows otherwise. The Suffragettes took similar direct action (and more extreme measures in many cases) and in the end they got what they wanted. I don't see this as any different. The threats and warnings about excluding F4J from any talks are really quite a clumsy attemt to get them to put a stop to their really rather effective pubilcity campaign.
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I would have to agre with you on this Towny, whilst the government will make a fuss, and say that they will exclude the group from future talks, there is little that they can realisticly do.
The group has not caused harm, nor has it broken the law (I could be wrong here, as technically it could be classed as an assault

). Therefore the government has no real grounds to exclude them.
This group has done more in recent months to bring the issues of fathers rights into the public eye than any other group. It would be political suicide to exclude them from discussions on this issue.
In recent times, the only groups that have been excluded from talks are those that have
publicly and
unrelentingly aligned themselves with "Terrorist" (or illegal paramilitary - to use another name) organisations.
As always my 2c