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Originally Posted by Alanmelon
I agree with what you're saying Towny, however, how much proof is required that failiure has occured?
Is a pregnant, under-age daughter, who feels that she is unable to approach her mother about her problems enough evidence of failure?
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Possibly. On the other hand, as Ramrod says, you can't predict the behaviour of adolescent teenagers, male or female. Either way, I object very strongly to a school teacher or social worker acting as sole arbiter of what constitutes parental failure. That is far, far too great a responsibility to be wielded by one person in summary fashion, as this tragic case very clearly demonstrates.