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Originally Posted by Damien
No way do we have one of the best teams - France
- Germany
- portual
- spain
- italy
five teams which have a better chance
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Hmmm, out of that list Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢d only really be worried about France and Italy.
Germany have been underperforming badly recently, and I donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t think they are the force that they were only 2 years ago.
Portugal and Spain have the same problem †“ they seem to have plenty of talented individuals but they always seem to muck it up as a team (although I do accept that Portugal are getting better)
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Originally Posted by carlingman
Dont forget Wales they are not out until todays ruling.

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As has been said earlier in this thread, Wales are actually a very good side (Speed, Savage, Bellamy, Giggs etc). However, Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢d be very surprised if they were allowed into Euro 2004 instead of Russia †“ I just think it would be too big a U-turn for UEFA.
I also agree with Russ D on this one †“ it would be better for Wales to qualify on merit than through the †˜back doorâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢