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Old 30-04-2004, 20:52   #203
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Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?

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Originally Posted by towny
I think you are misunderstanding what I mean by 'circular argument'. Have a look at this:

When you say something is discrimination simply because it just is, then your reasoning is fallacious.
I always thought it was a 'Tautology'
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/tautology

As far as Im aware there is no objective moral standard by which we can say if one thing is moral or not. So in the end we have to take a subjective standard.
I can't use any other justification for using discrimination other than the definition applies to the case in hand.

'DISCRIMINATION'
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/searc...discrimination

'unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice'

Its an 'unfair' (a subjective value) treatment of a group (men and homosexuals) based on a prejudice (that men who wear earrings are less worthy than women who wear earrings).

Where I suspect we differ is on the subjective word 'unfair' as you've already shown, you think its 'immature' (another subjective value) to quote:-
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Originally Posted by towny
5. To similarly bar women from wearing ear rings, even though this is considered quite acceptable in society at large, reduces the process to the extremely childish and selfish level of †˜if I canââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t have it, then nobody else can.ââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ There is no need to ban women from wearing ear rings, so in a mature and adult fashion we just let them get on with it.
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