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Originally Posted by dr wadd
As I've asked before, describe a situation in which this behaviour would have a legitimate purpose? Even if they were intelligence officers (and that's an extremely big if), what would be the point in taking the photographs of the soldiers having a laugh about it? Again, even if they were intelligence officers who had been "forced" to take morally ambiguous action, the fact that they were taking the photographs should see them facing a court martial.
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Well I think I have already answered you there. But in case my views are not crystal clear, I'll spell them out again:
I don't neccesarily agree with it. I wouldn't want it to happen to me. I wouldn't want to do it to someone else. I'm not saying it's right.
I am saying that it happens. I am saying that it can produce results (whether you like it or not), and turning the question around one should ask what other methods of interrogation should be used when your detainee refuses to give you what could be life-saving information?
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Originally Posted by theblueraja
However, what we have here is not one of these situations, it is, to put it simply, a bunch of stupid soldiers taking a few snap shots for their mates and having a big laugh at the expense of the enemy's dignity.
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Well I guess in the absence of any other evidence to the contrary, we have to accept that what we're told is correct, and if so, then I think everyone is in agreement here, that it is wholly wrong, illegal and immoral.
However, I fel sure that if someone had discovered military iteligence interrogating Iraqis in this way, would the coalition not play down the discovery by telling us that they were just a bunch of stupid soldiers?
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Originally Posted by darkangel
check out listing from amnesty international's reports on britain check out britians convictions in international courts for tourtue prisioner, belive m8 we are far from inoccent i spent 26 years watching things like this going on and many thing much worse
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You're right....we have committed some heinous crimes as a country over the years, and it's only now that we've got better at making sure the world outside doesn't find out, everyone thinks we're cleaner than clean.
If you ever found yourself being interrogated (without your arrest being public knowledge) by some of the more secret ends of our secret services, you may well find yourself with an electrode somewhere you didn't want it.
And let's not forget, Amercia still has the death penalty in many states - isn't that the ultimate abuse?