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Old 30-04-2004, 09:26   #150
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Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?

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Originally Posted by zendawn
Oh come off it (good natured) your seriously saying that when your wrote that title you didnt expect some sort of 'reaction' against it??
If people are gonna 'over react' to not being allowed to wear earrings then they're certainly gonna 'react' to being called trouble makers.
Your claim to be able to tell what someone is thinking or believing (whether consciously or subconsciously) based on the words they choose is flawed, and your post here shows the reason.

This is a discussion forum. It is a tradition of good debate to start off a discussion with a question that is framed in such a manner that it provokes an animated exchange of views. As you yourself say, the thread title may simply have been phrased to get a reaction. In the context of a discussion forum surely this is a good thing?

It is true that the way someone chooses to phrase something might shed some light on what they actually think about the subject, but for you to speak with such certainty about Russ' private, un-shared opinions based purely on five words in a thread title is arrogance in the extreme on your part.

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Originally Posted by zendawn
If it's wrong for men to wear earrings then it should be wrong for women to as well. Otherwise it's discrimination pure and simple.
It's the dicrimination against men and (if they so see it, gays) that's at issue not whether earrings should be worn or not.
With respect, it might be what's at issue for you, but it is not the issue for the people who have instigated this ban. What they have said is that they are concerned with the possible loss of respect/trustworthiness that may be caused among a section of the population if male police officers wear ear rings.

Discrimination is not an absolute crime in UK Law. It is illegal in certain circumstances only, so throwing the word at people you disagree with, as if it were some medieval curse, really proves nothing. In fact, the right to set differing dress codes is specifically enshrined in Law, so there is no ambiguity here at all. It is not discrimination, except in the narrow, dictionary-definition sense of the word, which merely means to differentiate (without any necessary positive or negative bias) between one thing and another.

Police men and women are public servants, in uniform and under oath. They accept that in the line of duty, their own perceived rights are often secondary to the needs of the job and the good of the community they serve. If by removing their ear rings they make relations with a section of the community easier, then the ear rings must come off.
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