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Originally Posted by orangebird
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I have another service with NTL.
I repeat my statement. Telewest can do it for £35.
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Originally Posted by Hell's Child
So in your case, upload is you big requirement.
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Yes
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However im most cases people have 1mb for downloading, and that half hour quicker will make a big difference.
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You're sure the 1Mbps users are mostly downloaders? These are the extreme users of which there is only a small quantity anyway. Someone said 95% of NTL customers are on 150 and 600, so the other 5% are likely to be the extreme bunch who run their own LANs with web servers, video/media streaming, game servers,etc. It's highly likely the 256kbps upstream is more important to them than any other group of NTL users.
Even the extreme downloaders will need 256kbps more than others, as they're most likely using P2P apps, which require a chunk of upstream to get decent downloads, and to do that and be able to surf, you need twice as much upstream.
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I don't understand how you can say that a 50% increase in speed does not represent a huge difference on a 1Mbps connection
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It doesn't to me at least.
Try and download something like a movie trailer (for example) on 1Mbps. Then try it on 1.5Mbps. Chances are it will stuggle to achieve the max speed even at 1Mbps anyway, but other than that you're probably saving a small amount of time, but it's not going to be staggeringly amazing, not compared to the difference between analogue modem and broadband. In my experience the difference between 600kbps and 1Mbps is not that much. Sure it is on paper, but in practice it doesn't make an amazing difference.
Hell, even at work where we a significantly faster connection, the reality is we only get downloads equivalent to a 1Mbps connection most of the time.
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The price increase was applied before the increase of speed was, so you had a price increase on your 1mb, now they are offering 500k extra at no extra cost on top of the 1mb connection (which is now 37.99), suppose it's to do with the way you look at it but, if you believe some people who believe ntl followed telewest, then your perception get's blown out of the water as the price increase had been on the cards since Jan, where as the speed increase has been on the cards since early march (so I am led to believe).
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Yeah right, and NTL would have had no chance in applying the increase with no benefit at all given most of the ADSL competition are fighting to reduce prices, not increase them. The price rise and speed increase are definitely linked. Whether that means NTL knew about Telewest's plans back in January, or were planning their own increase anyway, who knows, and who cares.
At the end of the day, as said above, it's spin. The fact is that for 1.5Mbps you will have to pay £3 more than the old 1Mbps service, thus it's not free.
By the way, can we change the poll so the option "Wouldn't change at all?" is split into...
"I'm on 1Mbps, and won't change"
"I'm on 600kbps, and won't change"
"I'm on 150kbps, and won't change"
That way we can see how many of the "Wouldn't change" users are on which tier, otherwise it could be the low numbers on the dropping options could just be down to a low number of users on those tiers by proportion and the "Wouldn't change" users could turn out to be mostly 150kbps users.