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10-07-2003, 15:47

great post towny, I accept that belittling the opposition argument comment.
I just couldnt think of any better wording at that time and "spoke" my mind.

As for 9/11 and police power not being able ot stop it, there has been some evidence to suggest that they did in fact know but simply didnt act upon it, or didnt have precise enough information.
Which, not meaning to belittle 9/11, unless the perps stood there with placards telling the gov exactly when and where and by whom the attacks would be carried out I dont think the US would have been able to stop it anyway.

I worry about the security of this country, I worry about terrorism. I just think that its a frivilous argument about carrying ID cards or not. I can probably sit here and come up with some extreme examples of human rights invasions, and yes they would all be completely out of context but actually and very worryingly could be argued at the European court.

As stated in another very recent post by KA I beleive of the top of my head, anything that can positively identify anyone that was as small as a credit card would in essence be a good and practicle thing. I dislike carrying my passport, I worry enough about it whilst on holiday. I dont like carying my driving licence although this is better since I got my picture card one.

10-07-2003, 15:47	#113
timewarrior2001 Guest Location: Teesside Services: Evilness Posts: n/a	great post towny, I accept that belittling the opposition argument comment. I just couldnt think of any better wording at that time and "spoke" my mind. As for 9/11 and police power not being able ot stop it, there has been some evidence to suggest that they did in fact know but simply didnt act upon it, or didnt have precise enough information. Which, not meaning to belittle 9/11, unless the perps stood there with placards telling the gov exactly when and where and by whom the attacks would be carried out I dont think the US would have been able to stop it anyway. I worry about the security of this country, I worry about terrorism. I just think that its a frivilous argument about carrying ID cards or not. I can probably sit here and come up with some extreme examples of human rights invasions, and yes they would all be completely out of context but actually and very worryingly could be argued at the European court. As stated in another very recent post by KA I beleive of the top of my head, anything that can positively identify anyone that was as small as a credit card would in essence be a good and practicle thing. I dislike carrying my passport, I worry enough about it whilst on holiday. I dont like carying my driving licence although this is better since I got my picture card one.