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Originally posted by Graham
Curiously enough, that's exactly the excuse that David Blunkett used to re-introduce the idea of ID cards after the last attempt to introduce "entitlement cards" fell through.
If you can't get them to agree "for their own good" then try to scare them with the bogeyman...
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Oh right so no one is allowed to be concerned about this country, fair enough, let people roam the land unchecked. Just dont complain when nasty things start happening.
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And yet, later on, you demand ID cards because of "our right to live in safety", yet as you demonstrate here, those who would infringe on that safety would immediately find ways of circumventing the system!
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As they will circumvent ANY kind of security checks if so determined.
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I don't drive. I don't have a licence. I don't *need* a licence. I don't *need* to be able to prove my identity to *anyone*.
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Unfortunately it is sometimes required to prove your identity.
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And what good is having to produce your documents at a Police station within 7 days if you've stolen the car?!
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If the car had been stolen. a) the police reg check would indicate this. b) evidence of damage would be evident to the officer who nearly always checks the car over.
[quoteIf we are not on the electoral role it is impossible to obtain credit[/quote]
And how will having an ID Card change that??
Simply because it will be another way of identifying yourself, your address and any other kind of status so needed for credit to be obtained.
The national insurance card scheme failed. So we need a replacement, a card that can act as :- A) a passport B) proof of ID C) a credit card D) a bank card E) a driving licence
No, we do not *NEED* anything of the sort!
That would be YOUR oppinion. But if one scheme has failed surely it is essential to replace it with somehting better?
It may be *convenient* for some (especially the government and big business), however that is nothing like the same thing!
It would be damned comvenient for me, it would save having to carry around several cards that I currently have to carry. And just think of the reduction in plastic that would be dumped in landfills.
The fact that you ask this merely points out that you don't understand the rights you will have and which you risk losing if such a scheme is introduced.
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" - Benjamin Franklin [/QUOTE]
And just what liberty would we be giving up if we had the introduction of ID cards?
The police can stop and question you now, without you having to have an ID card.
You need a NI number to get any kind of state benefit.
You HAVE to have several valid documents in order to drive a vehicle......ALL at cost to yourself in one way or another.
So then what Human rights are we going to lose? show me some ideas, some evidence?