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Originally posted by timewarrior2001
[B]Hopefully the ID card will become reality, and those immigrants that enter illegallly will end up destitute no money, no nice cosy council house and no chance at all of claiming legal aid.
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Curiously enough, that's exactly the excuse that David Blunkett used to re-introduce the idea of ID cards after the last attempt to introduce "entitlement cards" fell through.
If you can't get them to agree "for their own good" then try to scare them with the bogeyman...
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However, theres still nothing to prevent false Iris and fingerprint scans, I mean, fake an ID card and put your own details on, et voila an acceptable ID card.
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And yet, later on, you demand ID cards because of "our right to live in safety", yet as you demonstrate here, those who would infringe on that safety would immediately find ways of circumventing the system!
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I fail to see what rights we have now that will be affected by having an ID card
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That's pretty self-evident.
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I mean, if we dont have our driving documents on us we have to report to a police station within 7 days.
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I don't drive. I don't have a licence. I don't *need* a licence. I don't *need* to be able to prove my identity to *anyone*.
And what good is having to produce your documents at a Police station within 7 days if you've stolen the car?!
[quoteIf we are not on the electoral role it is impossible to obtain credit[/quote]
And how will having an ID Card change that??
The national insurance card scheme failed. So we need a replacement, a card that can act as :- A) a passport B) proof of ID C) a credit card D) a bank card E) a driving licence
No, we do not *NEED* anything of the sort!
It may be *convenient* for some (especially the government and big business), however that is nothing like the same thing!
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Whats the harm? dont mention human rights, how can this be against our human rights. What about our right to live in safety?
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The fact that you ask this merely points out that you don't understand the rights you will have and which you risk losing if such a scheme is introduced.
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" - Benjamin Franklin