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Originally posted by Russ D
It is stated that during the 'end times' (do a google for more info) the antichrist will demand everyone takes a mark of loyalty to him. This will come in the form of an indentifying 'mark' on the forehead or back of the right hand. Anyone who takes this mark will never be saved. Hopefully you can see from this why many christians would not be in favour of using and ID card.
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Forgive me for my ignorance, but I am still really failing to see the significance between the mark of the antichrist and the use of an ID card.
If this was a good enough reason for people to
not carry such cards, how do all the American christians manage? Surely, an ID card is proof of identity [as it's name would suggest], rather than a 'mark' as you seem to be suggesting. The mark on the back forehead or back of the right hand is not a personal identifier, simply a form of generic labelling that identifies persons belonging to a particular set - nothing more specific. If the government were suggesting I have "UK" tattooed to my forehead, or back of my right hand, then yes, I would object also.
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Originally posted by Russ D
The problem here is that of all the books of the Bible, the only one which has not yet come true is Revelations - it is a prediction of the future. 2000 years or 10,000 years, we believe it will happen.
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...erm... with respect, you would need to 'prove' that the other books of the bible are true or have come true since they were created... to my knowledge, no conclusive proof of the existence of these people or the validity of the stories contained within the good books actually exists - hence the existence of varying religions, dependant upon ones choice of flavour.
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Originally posted inRevelations 20: 7-8
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth...to gather them together in battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
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IMHO, it's all down to interpretation and belief... I just find it hard to believe your resoning behind christians not wishing to have ID... surely if Satan is going to put his mark on you anyway, as can be intrerpreted from the book of revelations, it's inevitable and therefore no matter what is done by us mere mortals, our fate is already decided.
