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cjmillsnun · 05-04-2004, 19:22

I think you hit the nail on the head here BBKing.

BR used to run one of the safest Railways in the world, and THE most cost efficient railway in the world.

BR had some fantastic plans for the WCML. Witness the APT, years ahead of its time that, when cancelled by the Government, they had just got right. They then planned the IC225, but the government limited production to cover only the newly electified ECML as they thought the cost too great. BR also borrowed heavily from APT technology to keep the costs down, and the Mk4 Coaches are even designed to be capable of tilt.

With safety. All the accidents brought home the ptoblems with privatisation.

Southall. That the train was allowed to enter service with faulty AWS when there were no secondmen available, no drivers trained with ATP or not turning the train so that the end with the functioning AWS system was not facing the direction of travel.

Ladbrooke Grove. Why were the points beyond SN109 set to the DRL to divert the Thames Train away from the path of the HST? Why was an inadeqautly trained with little or no route knowledge left in charge of a passenger train on his own on one of the nastiest layouts in the country,

Hatfield. OMG some disgusting failures. Why were there no speed restrictions on the damaged rail? Why was the line renewal left for the Winter timetable when it was clearly on the brink? Why was the wrong type of train used to deliver new rails so they had to be returned to the yard? why did it take so long for the danger to get back to Railtrack House for the funds to be released?

Potters Bar. Why was the same company that had been involved in the Hatfield disaster and who was clearly partly to blame still looking after maintenance on the same line just a few miles up? Who checked the line and the points and lied about their condition and why?

Great Heck was the only accident where the railways had no blame, and that tw*t who fell asleep at the wheel of his car ought to be shot.

I again say the railways should be publically owned by a similar body to the old BRB and should be vertically integrated so that the wheel/rail interface is restored.

Anybody who wants to know some of the information that led me to draw my conclusions could do worse than read "Broken Rails"

I also agree with BBKing that the cost of tickets is (in general) extortionate and is driving people away from one of Britains only alternatives to the car.

05-04-2004, 19:22	#35
cjmillsnun Inactive Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 231	Re: Deprivatisation of railways I think you hit the nail on the head here BBKing. BR used to run one of the safest Railways in the world, and THE most cost efficient railway in the world. BR had some fantastic plans for the WCML. Witness the APT, years ahead of its time that, when cancelled by the Government, they had just got right. They then planned the IC225, but the government limited production to cover only the newly electified ECML as they thought the cost too great. BR also borrowed heavily from APT technology to keep the costs down, and the Mk4 Coaches are even designed to be capable of tilt. With safety. All the accidents brought home the ptoblems with privatisation. Southall. That the train was allowed to enter service with faulty AWS when there were no secondmen available, no drivers trained with ATP or not turning the train so that the end with the functioning AWS system was not facing the direction of travel. Ladbrooke Grove. Why were the points beyond SN109 set to the DRL to divert the Thames Train away from the path of the HST? Why was an inadeqautly trained with little or no route knowledge left in charge of a passenger train on his own on one of the nastiest layouts in the country, Hatfield. OMG some disgusting failures. Why were there no speed restrictions on the damaged rail? Why was the line renewal left for the Winter timetable when it was clearly on the brink? Why was the wrong type of train used to deliver new rails so they had to be returned to the yard? why did it take so long for the danger to get back to Railtrack House for the funds to be released? Potters Bar. Why was the same company that had been involved in the Hatfield disaster and who was clearly partly to blame still looking after maintenance on the same line just a few miles up? Who checked the line and the points and lied about their condition and why? Great Heck was the only accident where the railways had no blame, and that tw*t who fell asleep at the wheel of his car ought to be shot. I again say the railways should be publically owned by a similar body to the old BRB and should be vertically integrated so that the wheel/rail interface is restored. Anybody who wants to know some of the information that led me to draw my conclusions could do worse than read "Broken Rails" I also agree with BBKing that the cost of tickets is (in general) extortionate and is driving people away from one of Britains only alternatives to the car.